New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, A subreddit for all things Dragon Ball! Saiyan Saga Power Levels; Namek Saga Episodes (uncut) 36-61; Imperfect Cell Saga Power Levels; Cell Games Saga Power Levels; ... Piccolo(Over the next 130 days)1,550,000 Gohan(Over the next 130 days)455,000. What is the difference between say, Perfect Cell and Kamiccolo (besides power level), in terms of their fighting ability? He just meditated while Yamcha, Tien, and Chaotzu worked on catching up. This greatly improves Piccolo's power level, but doesn't seem to have much effect on his persona or influence on the Dragon Balls. The absolute dominance Kame/Piccolo displayed on Earth (ie self proclaimed guardian of the planet on an impossible platform, magical wish granting balls, world-conquering power even against RR army and Roshi level opposition) makes me think Namek is one of … Galactic Patrol Namekian Dooru (the original eldest namek of Eros) Guru (the former eldest namek of namek) Katas (father of the Nameless Namekian) Take your favorite fandoms with you and never miss a beat. In truth, we don't know. Vegeta(Over the next 130 days)1,700,000. That being said first form Frieza is possible, no one had seen Frieza's full power on Namek so no one on Namek had any idea how truly powerful he was. Nail just knew it was hopeless and had one last trump card to play. List of Nameks: Edit. Power Levels of Warrior-type Namekians estimate between 1,000 and 42,000. Despite having masculine bodies, voices and behaviors, Namekians are actually genderless and can reproduce asexualy but can reproduce sexually if there are partners. Nail commented that his power was amazing, which implies to me that Piccolo was stronger than him, putting him over 42,000. If we go by the anime though, Piccolo should be far above 10K since we see namekian warriors with a power level of 10K getting killed by Frieza. Like, "Your power is amazing...BUUUT...without me you still can't beat Freeza.". Speed: MFTL+ (188,664.59c) via having a Power Level 465,838.5 times higher than Piccolo who blew up the moon in a short time making him .405c (3.12 seconds in the anime, timeframe being applied as it was implied to be a short time) Kagyu answers Piccolo's question by confirming he is indeed Slug. Vegeta didn't actually go from like 40 thousand to half a million after getting beaten up by Recoome. Piccolo's power level probably raised slightly after he removed his weighted clothing and it is extremely likely his level raised after he was healed by Dende. Perhaps his meditation increased his power somehow, or he trained in secret. People are saying power levels are pointless. Piccolo Special Beam Cannon's power level 1,440 Vegeta Saga (trainings) Master Roshi Base 139 Krillin 206 Turtle 0.001 Tien Shinhan 250 Yamcha 177 Piccolo With Weighted Clothing ... Piccolo Super Namek 500,000,000 Imperfect Cell 100,000,000 Imperfect Cell Humans absorbed 800,000,000 Semi-Perfect Cell 1,000,000,000 Perfect Cell Saga: This is the most unsubstantiated claim I've ever read. From this new piece of information, I think it’s fair to assume also during the Nappa fight with Krillin and Gohan. I obtained power levels from the Daizenshuu 7. What was Piccolo's power level when he was Wished to Namek, just before fusing with Nail? The whole point of power levels was that power levels are pointless. I'll actually humor your question unlike the other members who've posted. It's hard to accept that levels don't matter when the battles consist of one fighter's punches (ki blasts, etc) doing no damage to a superior opponent until that fighter powers up, trains etc, and then his punches begin to harm his opponent. Piccolo at 28000 fused with Nail 40000 would shoot his power level over 1 million. Hiromi. It is clear that they were a well-known, space-faring race at some point in the not-too-distant pas… Fair enough. Could have done very little to Piccolo or vastly improved him. That is an increase of 2% after a near-death battle. 4000 vs 3000) and the lower number was victorious? Goku's battle power was 924 when he was charging his Kamehameha. Piccolo died with a power level of 3500. Sooo, I guess what I really wanted to know was how much stronger Piccolo was after being wished to Namek but before fusing with Nail. It wasn't that he developed a new way of striking or grappling it was just that he was...stronger (i.e. What I mean is that the characters beat their opponents because they were faster and punched harder, not because they developed novel techniques and/or outsmarted their foes. It's false to say Kaio didn't train Piccolo in the manga. Namekians have green skin and antennae. Too much is unknown about Namekian Fusion. All of the neat combat tricks we saw in DB and early DBZ went out the window in favor of just having more powerful striking, ki blasts, being faster, etc. Goku's power level was less than 3 million when he transformed, bringing his power level closer to Freeza's 100%, thus allowing for a close battle. He's lying. had a higher power level). But there's also the chance that Nail was goading him into fusing with him. Fusion gives large jumps in power. Hoping to aid Piccolo's fight against the tyrant, Nail allows Piccolo to fuse with him to be as he once was with Kami. While wearing weighted clothing Piccolo’s power level was 322. Namek Goku power level is nearly Three Million , so if Raditz was FTL then Goku would be 2307.6 times the speed of light, that puts saiyan saga goku at roughly 10 times FTL We only have one picture of them training on Kaio's, and I'll grant you that it's Piccolo meditating which is probably where your view comes from, but it's never implied that he didn't train under Kaio. I suppose the meditation might have raised his level somewhat, but not significantly. Thats assuming that piccolos training was as vigorous and yielded the same results as goku. These power levels come directly from the manga, anime, movie specials, and Daizenshu #7 ("SANGOKU"), unless stated otherwise.It should be noted that the Daizenshu numbers are sometimes questioned, despite the overall coherence with the original series. I think it was the same as when he fought Nappa. Piccolo Power Level Akirya stopped making power levels after the battle on Namek. Chaos erupts on King Kai’s planet as the Z-fighters battle the Ginyu Force! https://ultradragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Namek_saga_power_levels?oldid=221938. Saiyan Saga Power Levels; Namek Saga Episodes (uncut) 36-61; Imperfect Cell Saga Power Levels; Cell Games Saga Power Levels; Broly - The Legendary Super Saiyan Movie Saga Power Levels; Bojack Unbound Movie Saga Power Levels; Path To Power Saga Power Levels So lower power level makes sense. discord.gg/dbz, Press J to jump to the feed. Main article: Origins of character names in Dragon Ball Approximately three-hundred years prior to the beginning of the Dragon Ball series, the earliest Namekians encountered on Earth (King Piccolo and his sons, though not counting Kami) were evil, destructive and caused chaos throughout the Earth until their eventual narrow defeat at the hands of Master Mutaito and his pupils (including Master Roshi and Master Shen). Piccolo(Another 130 days later)1,600,000. He was on King Kai's planet for literally one week, far less time than Goku was. Freeza (3rd form): 2,300,000 Piccolo: 1,850,000 Krillin: 37,000 Gohan : … Patches on their arms seem to indicate age; younger Namekians have pink arm patches, while elders instead have a dull orange coloration. Goku(Near Death)3 Krillin(Near Death)6 Gohan(Near Death)2. With a power level of 42,000, Nail is the most powerful of this type alive during the Frieza Saga. With that in mind, it seems like power levels are the only thing that matters. If you're going to assume that characters are lying about these statements obviously meant to be taken at face value like tons of other Shonen series have (Bleach and Naruto for obvious examples), then where do you draw the line? Due to their asexual existence, any and all Namekians can reproduce by spitti… And that's that people simply talk shit sometimes. The closest I can think of off hand is Trunks in USSJ but his power level was never stated, cell just said he was powerful but slow. That's something we only present in the anime. A even greater form of a Super Namek that surpasses the previous state and ascends into the god level of power. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Gohan vs. Frieza (form 3) Gohan: 35,000 However he did say how he wasn't going to let the earthlings surpass him. For example, Tien's power level during the Trunks Saga will be around 70,000 and will increase somewhat when he levels up, but will be around 2,000,000 when the story reaches the Androids Saga. 05-19-2014, 07:15 PM #4. His power level was ~3500 when fighting Nappa, so how much did his training in the afterlife increase his power? The sparring with Tien, Yamcha and Chiaotzu was filler. Ultra Dragon Ball Wiki is a FANDOM Anime Community. I think that the odds are that it would actually benefit Piccolo greatly, though not near the extent Nail’s fusion did. So you can choose to believe all of this, but you're going to have to spit in the face of the facts: namely, he got this amazing power up in 5-6 days. He trained on King Kai's planet for almost exactly six months (April 29-November 2) and his power increased about 24x. Yajirobe(Injured)100. Can you site a specific example where two power levels were stated specifically (i.e. Freeza (full power): 1,700,000 Piccolo: 1,850,000 Piccolo/Gohan/Krillin vs. 3rd Form Freeza. I doubt piccolo would be able to keep up with the level of training goku did to octuple his power. coming soon Note: Post-Namek's Destruction Power Levels are hypothetically.Source: Seth the Programmer (and a few of my own entreprettion where i disagree) 1 Son Goku 1.1 Pre-Namek's Destruction 1.2 Post-Namek's Destruction 2 Vegeta 2.1 Pre-Namek's Destruction 2.2 Post-Namek… Even using the Kamehameha, his PL only went up to about 940-something IIRC. For one, Goku's power level against Raditz was 416, not ~1000-1500. But we don't know for sure. I think we have determined that he was not substantially stronger and that power levels are difficult to gauge. However, when he separated, their power levels plummeted into the mere hundreds. View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Extraordinary Member Join Date Apr 2014 Posts 5,844. It's never said his battle power kept rising after that because Raditz took notice of Piccolo charging his Makankosappo, but Goku hung around long enough after that that I think it's fair to assume it surpassed 924. I know power levels "don't matter", but whenever a character with a weaker power level fights a character with a greater power level, he loses. namek warriors..... not sure they got to strong likely fighting was the only thing they did cause it was so boring Goku went from ~1000-1500 (vs. Raditz) to ~8000 (without using Kaioken), so would it be safe to assume Piccolo was ~28,000 (3500*8). I don't think Piccolo would have wanted to use two wishes on himself if we was only marginally stronger, especially knowing the enemies on Namek far surpassed Vegeta. Recorded power levels. Combat Power) in … … It was believed by the rest of the Namekians in the Frieza Saga that the Nameless Namek could have easily defeated Frieza who had a maximum power of 530,000 in his first form and 120,000,000 at 100% of his full power. There were 15 Warrior-type Namekians on Planet Namek before Frieza's attack. Piccolo (energy)- 1,648,000 Spirit Bomb- 85,000,000 Goku (tired)- 2,000,000 Super Saiyan Goku- 150,000,000 Frieza 50%- 62,500,000 Planet Destroyer- 72,500,000 Frieza 70%- 87,500,000 100% Full Power Frieza- 125,000,000 Gohan (enraged)- 2,580,000 Frieza (suppressed against Gohan)- 12,500,000 Super Masenko- 3,870,000 Nova Strike- 150,000,000 158 days. Back on Planet Namek, the life and death struggle between Piccolo and Frieza rages on, and Goku completes his Spirit Bomb! Nail was the most powerful warrior on his planet, but even he was no match for Frieza. I like that you worded this as a question.. King piccolo wasn’t born a warrior, and the only challenge he faced was earths defenders. First, their power levels took a huge plummet. If only we knew how fusion works, how powerful it makes the fusee and how. And I repeat what I posted above: It's a complete waste of 2 wishes to revive him and bring him to Namek to fight if he's marginally better than ~3,500. A list of power levels from Weekly Jump #31, 1989. I would say he really wasn't all that much stronger when he got to Namek than he was when he died. Master Roshi-139 Frieza's base power is not 500K. For example, the two Saiyans who entered Planet Namek ten years ago, the Power Level has reached several million, which is not an ordinary warrior can beat. However, Bulma remodels the scouter and Piccolo’s power level was 329 after the Raditz fight. Saison 3, épisode 20 G SD HD. The power level verses Frieza may seem low but Piccolo is an extremely good fighter and thanks to Nail he is able to anticipate Frieza's attacks. What always bothered me about the fact that "power levels are pointless" was that the battles in DBZ after the Freiza saga seemed to be entirely about power level. Super Namekian Piccolo (merged w/ Kami): 320,000,000; Full-Power Super Namekian Piccolo: 400,000,000; Imperfect Cell: 300,000,000; Imperfect Cell (humans absorbed): 420,000,000; Semi-Perfect Cell: 630,000,000; Goku (healed from virus): 8,000,000; Vegeta (post Room of Spirit/Time training): 10,500,000; Second Grade Super Saiyan Vegeta: 650,000,000 He didn't really train. Goku(Near Death)3 Krillin(Near Death)6 Gohan(Near Death)2, King Kai-3,500 Gregery-1,000 Bubbles-1,100, Goku(Injured)20 Krillin(Injured)50 Gohan(Injured)18, Gohan(Supressed)100 Krillin(Supressed)100, Raiti(Disguised as namekian)200 Zaacro(Disguised as Namekian)200, Vegeta(Recovering in Healing Chamber)1,000, Illusion Stone Giant-10 Illusion Snake-1.6, Frieza ( heavily suppressed ) 85,000 Zarbon-23,000 Dodoria-22,000, Gohan(Full Power) - 1,800 Krillin(Full Power) - 1,840, Moori 1,500 Cargo-3 Dende-4.2 Namekians- 1,000 each, Goku(After Training in 20x Gravity)20,000, Piccolo-3,500 Tien-1,840 Yamchha-1,480 Ciaotzu-610, Krillin(Power Unlocked By Grand Elder)13,000, Vegeta's Continues Energy Bullets-30,400+, Goku(After Training in 100x Gravity)90,000, Gohan(Power Unlocked by Grand Elder)14,000. Piccolo transformed into a Super Namekian God in Dragon Ball SF. I understand this, but levels were still given for the characters at this stage in the series so I was just wondering what his might be. Kamipiccolo had Piccolo(with a power level above Raditz who had later fused with Nail to surpass 2nd form Frieza) fuse with Kami to reach to Android 17 level. Piccolo died with a power level of 3500. They might just be right. And his second form is not 1 million. He trained on King Kai's planet for almost exactly six months (April 29-November 2) and his power increased about 24x. If we're going to use dates to calculate it, the Daizenshuu gives 29 May Age 762 as the day that Goku reaches Kaio's planet and 3 November Age 762 the date the Saiyans arrive. This is a list of known and official Power Levels (戦闘力, Sentōryoku, lit.Combat Power) in the Dragon Ball universe.All of the levels on this list are taken from the manga, anime, movies, movie pamphlets, Daizenshuu guides, video games and stated mathematical calculations. Even using the Kamehameha, his PL only went up to about 940-something IIRC. Not to mention King Kai never even trained Piccolo in the manga- he simply sat there meditating the entire time. First of all, you're wrong about a few things. I think Piccolo definitely trained, though. Power of the Spirit. There is an alternative though. Goku was training on Kaio's planet for 158 days. He probably doesn't really surpass 1 million until he reaches his white and purple form. He was on King Kai's planet for literally one week, far less time than Goku was. Making shit up. Nail seems to be too honourable to lie just to save his own life (If you could even call it that); no, Piccolo's power really must have been something. Just curious, I see the "power levels are pointless" statement made quite a lot but for the life of me I cannot think of anytime where a power level advantage did not yield a victory. This would give him a power up greater than what Goku got training in 100G. 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